Hitler? He Got Things Done.

by: canadian gal

Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 00:56:59 AM EDT



(cross posted at kickin it with cg)

Yesterday Bernie Ecclestone, the head of Formula One, in an interview with London's The Times newspaper, said that he preferred totalitarian regimes to democracies and praised Adolf Hitler for his ability to "get things done"

canadian gal :: Hitler? He Got Things Done.
"In a lot of ways, terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was in the way that he could command a lot of people, able to get things done.

In the end he got lost, so he wasn't a very good dictator because either he had all these things and knew what was going on and insisted, or he just went along with it . . . so either way he wasn't a dictator." He also rounded on democracy, claiming that "it hasn't done a lot of good for many countries - including this one [Britain]".

Ecclestone later praised the concept of a government based on tyranny.

Politicians are too worried about elections," he said. "We did a terrible thing when we supported the idea of getting rid of Saddam Hussein. He was the only one who could control that country. It was the same [with the Taleban]. We move into countries and we have no idea of the culture. The Americans probably thought Bosnia was a town in Miami. There are people starving in Africa and we sit back and do nothing but we get involved in things we should leave alone."

Ecclestone, who owns F1's commercial rights, is no stranger to controversial remarks. He once said women should dress in white "like all other domestic appliances." In The Times interview, Ecclestone claimed that had been a joke, adding "I would love to have a good lady race driver and preferably black and Jewish too, but they might take maternity leave."

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, (2.00 / 4)
what the FUCK??

Bizarre.

Come to me in my dreams, and then
By day I shall be well again!
For so the night will more than pay
The hopeless longing of the day.


He's not alone in that kind of thinking (2.00 / 4)
He's on top now. He figures he'd be on top under a dictator too. It's the little people that would be controlled.  

This is not a recession. It's a robbery.

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perfectly put. (2.00 / 3)


"I spend my days and nights pondering the meaning of life, the state of the universe, and the Home Shopping Network." -- Donald Roller Wilson

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Bernie Ecclestone... (2.00 / 5)
...is a horrible little oik, with a Hitler/Napoleon complex. I wonder where it comes from...?

There are a couple of urban myths that need debunking here. First, apparently Napoleon was that small. More importantly, Hitler did not get things done, at least in economic terms. Most the non military major construction projects of 30s Germany, such as the autobahn, were planned and funded by the Pre Hitler Weimar Government. Likewise, it was right wing propaganda that claimed Mussolini made the trains run on time.  The improvements to the Italian transport system were made immediately after WWI, before he came to power in 1922

Interesting this right wing fascination, however, with transport technology. Bernie Ecclestone is ideologically the heir to this futurist fascination with speed. His great ally and President of the FIA, Max Mosely, is literally the heir of the British Fascist leader Oswald Mosely.

These petty tyrants also display strange sexual habits, perhaps to compensate or release their lust for domination. Max Mosely was recently revealed to have a penchant for erotic flagellation sessions with hired 'female help'.

Mosley won a recent libel action over a claim that this involved dressing up in Nazi uniforms, but admitted the rest.  

The p***artist formerly known as 'Brit'


Oops.... (2.00 / 3)
Napoleon was not that small.


The p***artist formerly known as 'Brit'

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thanks for further context... (2.00 / 3)
the more i find out about this guy - the worse it gets.

"I spend my days and nights pondering the meaning of life, the state of the universe, and the Home Shopping Network." -- Donald Roller Wilson

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I'm glad to see that the crazy isn't confined to the U.S. (2.00 / 5)
That poor Hitler guy, he was just getting things done and then someone "persuaded" him to get ... other things done.  Sheesh.

Isn't F-1 on the rocks right now, anyway?


They've just rescued a deal... (2.00 / 3)
...but the major motor racing teams will only stay in provide Mosley steps down.  

The p***artist formerly known as 'Brit'

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Ew. (2.00 / 3)
He's a little creepy.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

What I like is how people can be so damned clueless (2.00 / 3)
"Hitler's government would have been great were it not for the genocide. And the racial purity stuff. And the world domination ambitions. And the secret police."

As if the one lesson we have taken from the 20th century was NOT that utopias almost always have the sort of dark underbelly that make the rest of the world recoil in horror. Hitler! Mussolini! Idi Amin! Jim Jones! Did you learn nothing? Mankind is too imperfect to live together in happiness, sad to say.


Well, Idi Amin probably does not fully belong there. (2.00 / 3)
Replace him with Mao Zedong. But the point remains valid.

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Or replace him with the Workers' Utopia (2.00 / 2)
under Stalin.

This is not a recession. It's a robbery.

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Just to be contrary I do have to agree with the bulk of the second quote... (2.00 / 2)
Politicians are too worried about elections," he said. "We did a terrible thing when we supported the idea of getting rid of Saddam Hussein. He was the only one who could control that country. It was the same [with the Taleban]. We move into countries and we have no idea of the culture. The Americans probably thought Bosnia was a town in Miami. There are people starving in Africa and we sit back and do nothing but we get involved in things we should leave alone."

The part about Bosnia makes no sense, although I would say most Americans couldn't find it on a map (to be honest I could place it in the right region but would probably not be exact).

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


A town in Miami? (2.00 / 4)
This guy is criticizing Americans' knowledge of geography and he doesn't know Miami is a city? Maybe it is the 51st state.

This is not a recession. It's a robbery.

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