Reforming the U.N. Security Council?

by: Inoljt

Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 01:59:21 AM EDT



By: Inoljt, http://mypolitikal.com/

The United States has permanent membership in the Security Council along with the China, France, Russia, and United Kingdom. Each of these countries may veto any resolution they desire to.

There have been occasional calls to reform the Security Council. The most discussed option has been adding Brazil, Germany, India, and Japan as permanent members.

Let's take a look at each of the current Security Council members:

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Inoljt :: Reforming the U.N. Security Council?
China - China has the world's second-largest economy and - probably - the world's third most powerful military. Its relative influence, however, is still limited. China today is far more of a great power than it was in 1945 (indeed, in 1945 it probably didn't deserve to be labeled a great power). Moreover, China is indisputably becoming stronger.

France - France has the world's fifth largest economy and a very modern and powerful military, probably in the world's top five. On the other hand, its influence is somewhat limited outside the former French Empire. Compared with 1945, France is substantially less of a great power, having lost its empire and fallen under the American umbrella. Indeed, like most of Europe it has been in relative decline ever since 1918 and looks set to continue to decline in relative terms. This is because the Third World is slowly catching up to the First World, rather than any fault of France itself.

Russia - Russia has the smallest economy of the five, barely (or not at all) breaking into the world's top ten biggest economies. However, Russia's military is unquestionably the world's second strongest, and it dominates the region it is located in. Russia fell into steep decline after the fall of the Soviet Union, when it was on par with the United States, and has only recently begun to recover.

United Kingdom - The United Kingdom has much in common with France. Its economy is the world's sixth largest, and its military is probably in the world's top five. Nowadays, the United Kingdom's influence is more cultural than anything else; it neither dominates Europe or the former British Empire. Out of all the powers, the United Kingdom has declined the most since 1945 - losing both its empire and economic preeminence.

United States - The United States has the world's largest economy and most powerful military. It strongly influences the entire world. It is more powerful than in 1945, with the fall of its great rival the Soviet Union.

All in all the United States, Russia, and China (going in order of their great power strength) definitely ought to be in the Security Council. The case is more questionable for France and the United Kingdom. Europe is still a very powerful entity in the world and should have a permanent member in the Security Council. But having two members in the Security Council - as is currently the case - certainly overstates its status.

The trouble is that by themselves, France or the United Kingdom aren't powerful enough to have one seat. Nor is the European Union influential or coherent enough to deserve a seat. Under an ideal situation, one-third of a seat each would go to France and the United Kingdom, with the other third going to Germany. This, of course, wouldn't be feasible in the real world.

Finally, let's take a look at the countries which some propose adding as permanent members:

Brazil - Brazil has the world's seventh or eighth largest economy, which is why people propose adding it. However, Brazil has no substantial military presence to speak of. Its influence is limited to Latin America (where the United States is probably more influential). While Brazil has become relatively more powerful since 1945, it is still not in the category of great power status.

Germany - Germany probably has the strongest claim to being added to the permanent Security Council. Germany's economy is the world's 4th largest (bigger than the United Kingdom or France), but its military is still quite weak due to the restrictions imposed upon it after World War II. Germany is generally seen as Europe's first-among-equals; it is Germany, not France or the United Kingdom, which is coordinating the response to the European Union debt crisis. Germany has thus definitely become more powerful after rising from the ashes of 1945.

India - India is similar to Brazil in many respects, except weaker. It has the world's tenth or eleventh biggest economy. Like Brazil, its military is essentially nonexistent. It has very little influence even in its neighborhood. India has certainly strengthened since 1945, when it was under foreign rule. However, it definitely is not yet a great power. One could make a stronger case for adding Italy or Canada to the permanent Security Council than India (or Brazil, for that matter).

Japan - Japan is a unique case. Its economy is the world's third largest, which seems to say that Japan ought to be included in the permanent Security Council. Japan's military, however, is extraordinarily weak. Furthermore, Japan has no regional influence; it is regarded negatively by its neighbors for its crimes in World War II. Indeed, Japan has been bullied quite recently both by Russia and China over disputed islands, with Russia and China getting the better of it each time. While Japan has advanced economically since 1945, its regional influence is still lower. Before World War II, for instance, Japan occupied Korea and much of China as a colony; this would be impossible today.

Out of these four countries, probably only Germany truly ought to be in the permanent Security Council. Brazil and India are still middle powers. Japan, while economically strong, lacks the other qualifications that go along with Great Power status.

Indeed, none of these countries have been able to exert their strength in ways the Security Council Five have in the past decade. The United States invaded and occupies Iraq and Afghanistan, countries half around the world. Russia invaded Georgia. The United Kingdom and France played a major part in bombing Libya. Perhaps only Germany - and even this is fairly uncertain - can do something similar today.

The world has changed a lot since 1945, but it has also changed a lot less than many believe. The five great powers in 1945 still are, by and large, the five great powers in 2010.

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Gosh, I hope they aren't bombing Lybia now... ;~) (0.00 / 0)
Interesting topic, and not dated by the crosspost lag.

The UN is definitely important despite opinions of detractors (including myself). The security council sums up the state of the world today, which is something quite different than most modern Americans believe.

To add to your correct reasoning - that neither the UK nor France really deserve a permanent SC seat given the current shape of the world - two out of the three remaining seats are held by countries who are by Western standards stark raving mad. This puts the unfinished state of world affairs in glaring contrast to the post-development view that those in the First World who do not follow these things closely (IOW: the vast majority) commonly embrace.

Let's clarify my point.

Russia remains a Corruptocracy, where the sins which Western companies and governments are continuously (and correctly) scrutinized for are the accepted norm. "President" Putin holds a mostly-not-elected seat as absolute dictator of a nuclear power which will either jail honest business people or enrich dishonest ones without even the most basic pretense of justice. Human rights can be netted out to "we might not kill you, only throw you in a stinking Gulag" and foreign policy is unapologetically founded on the principle that whatever is good for the rich white men running the country over-rules any other action regardless of the cost in human lives and suffering, foreign or domestic.

China's foreign policy follows similar lines, if less directly corrupt along Russian Mafia lines (though still thousands of times worse than any functional EU country or the US). Not only is it OK for Sudan to kill and rape as many people as it likes as long as oil flows to Chinese ports, but even commenting on such matters is seen as a shocking intrusion in the perfectly ordinary affairs of sovereign states.

It seems clear that winning the Cold War itself does in fact indicate the direction of the future, but we should not in any way assume that the work of creating a free and sustainable world was finished in 1989. The best reason to keep France and the UK on the UN Security Council reflects that reality: "because they are the only thing keeping the SC from voting to legalize state-sponsored genocide and other atrocities."

The Chinese, Russian, Indian, Brazilian and the rest of the peoples of the world do want and will in the end have similar human rights and freedoms as Americans and Europeans enjoy today. But only if the populations of the First World do not go early to their quiet retirement.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


Sorry about the Libya thing. (2.00 / 1)
I was kind of looking at this from the perspective of the Security Council best reflecting the current power distribution of the world, rather than from a moral perspective. But you're definitely right from a moral perspective.

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Not as sorry as Ghaddafi. (0.00 / 0)
Lybia seems to be taking a middle path from what little I have seen. May disappoint the fear mongers in the end.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

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