Who do you have to kill around here to get an Open Thread?

by: fogiv

Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 02:18:53 AM EDT



So wonders the guy from VI.  

Easy answer. This guy:

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Good luck though, Tony Bagels is legit.

fogiv :: Who do you have to kill around here to get an Open Thread?
Lots of things happening home and abroad, hearth to hallway to highway too.

Well, go on now.  Speak your piece.

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So... (2.00 / 6)
Someone was saying Romney had opened up a chasm below his feet that plummets straight to the seventh circle of electoral hell.  Do tell me more...

Fancy That (2.00 / 6)
Obama's campaign is making a "huge" advertising investment in Florida:


So the Obama campaign's investment puts Romney in an extremely difficult spot: It could have the effect of either solidifying Florida as a toss-up that tilts Obama, or forcing Romney to spend heavily defending a must win state, protecting Obama's lead elsewhere.

Nate Cohn - Daily Breakdown: Fox News Poll Undermines Romney's Theory Of The Race New Republic 13 Sep 12

I wonder how the debate prep is going; methinks the Romney campaign may soon start suffering "crisis fatigue."


OT - but in terms of open threads (2.00 / 5)
...Yes you do have to kill. At least in the Moose World

B.C. woman hits moose on way to visit sister who hit moose

Two sisters from the northwestern B.C. community of Kitimat have both had close encounters with moose on the loose.

A month ago, Yvonne Studley, 49, was badly injured when she hit a moose with her vehicle, so last Friday her sister decided to visit her in Vancouver General Hospital.

But sister Connie Everitt, 51, also hit a moose and ended up in hospital.

More bizarrely still, the caption of the picture for that piece talks of another story:

A 68-year-old woman mistaken for a moose was shot by a hunter while enjoying a 'boil-up' in the woods (file photo)

Either way, it's great to see the Moose stirring its mighty loins again as the Election season really gets underway

The p***artist formerly known as 'Brit'


I think I speak for many here (2.00 / 5)
that our lives are richer for not knowing what "boil-up in the woods" means.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

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Hoping... (2.00 / 4)
It involves tea.

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I was guessing maple syrup production (2.00 / 4)
in order to replenish the heist depleted Canadian Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

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Whatever it is... (2.00 / 4)
...it sure must be fattening if - as a result - someone mistakes you for a Moose

The p***artist formerly known as 'Brit'

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Now that is a tragedy. (2.00 / 3)
Maple Syrup (yes, it is capitalized in all cases) is what makes the world go around.

Wrong time of the year, though. Sap runs in the spring, even in BC.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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Wiseguy, eh? (2.00 / 7)
lol! That pic always slays me.

Back when Hillary's campaign stumbled, people (correctly) pointed the finger at Mark Penn. I am wondering who the genius behind Romney's campaign is.  

Just because they are posting on a progressive site doesn't make them progressives. - John Allen


Heh (2.00 / 5)
Given the campaign's "corporate culture" I'm guessing they'll pin it all on the CEO.

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That should be corporate culture. (2.00 / 4)
Too often it goes in the other direction, though.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

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My money is that the fall guy (2.00 / 7)
will be Stuart Stevens, the chief campaign strategist. It says it all when Wikipedia describes him primarily as a travel writer and only secondarily as a political consultant.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

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Fehrnstrom could claim he was too focused on Brown's (2.00 / 5)
re-election campaign.  But the blame should fall rightfully on Mr. CEO.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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It's Not Like... (2.00 / 5)
There's no "strateregy:"


And now look at Romney, who set out in the general to focus voters' attention, with relentless intensity, on the lackluster economy. As a result of losing news cycle after news cycle, he's now throwing spaghetti, rigatoni, and fettuccine against the wall, and hoping something will stick.

Blake Zeff - The Obama Trap: Romney discovers what Hillary and McCain already know Capital 13 Sep 12

It's like the pie-fight scene of a big budget '60s comedy.


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And the Fall Guy is ... Stuart Stevens! (2.00 / 6)
Mike Allen of Politico wastes no time in pointing the finger via Inside the campaign: How Mitt Romney stumbled:

Romney's convention stumbles have provoked weeks of public griping and internal sniping about not only Romney but also his mercurial campaign muse, [Stuart] Stevens. Viewed warily by conservatives, known for his impulsiveness and described by a colleague as a "tortured artist," Stevens has become the leading staff scapegoat for a campaign that suddenly is behind in a race that had been expected to stay neck and neck through Nov. 6.
...
As mishaps have piled up, Stevens has taken the brunt of the blame for an unwieldy campaign structure that, as the joke goes among frustrated Republicans, badly needs a consultant from Bain & Co. to straighten it out.
...
A growing number of conservatives are blaming Stevens for advocating a campaign of caution, one that puts all the emphasis not on how good Romney could be but how bad Obama is.

And indications are that Rmoney will not shake up his campaign staff in any major way.  

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


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Your Money... (2.00 / 5)
Has been pretty good this season; following your posts with great interest.

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Well, shucks, thanks! Last year was not so kind. (2.00 / 6)
Or did you forget my confident assertion that Egyptian VP Omar Sulieman would come out on top post Mubarak? And then, not 24 hours later, well, let Wikipedia take it:

On 11 February 2011, Suleiman announced Mubarak's resignation and ceased being Vice President; governing power was transferred to the Armed Forces Supreme Council, of which Suleiman was not a member. A new head of intelligence services was appointed by the ruling Supreme Council. Suleiman withdrew from the political scene and did not appear in public after announcing Mubarak's resignation.

On the other hand, we at MM scooped the GOS reclist post 3 days earlier by making the connection of Pamela Geller, aka Atlas Juggs, to the anti-Muslim film. Of course, I missed the link to "the embarrassed porn stars", which, BTW, would make a great band name.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


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Yeah... (2.00 / 6)
I wasn't so sure about Sulieman he was "the man who knew too much."  As for Geller, given that this film is so clearly in her wheelhouse conceptually and she's been "palling around" with the production company director, never mind soliciting donations for a very similar venture, why isn't the media having her for breakfast?  

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Mark Penn (2.00 / 5)
EOM

Howard Dean is my guy. (in a strictly nonsexual fashion)

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So Romney sat down for an interview with Stephanopolous. (2.00 / 6)
In it he said that the middle class makes $250k and less, that POTUS lies in debates, and that neither he or Ryan has read a report that they cite on the campaign trail as being favorable to their ecomonic plan.  Not sure which is the most egregious.  Romney is reportedly planning to use the "there you go again" line because, of course, he cannot come up with anything remotely original.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

Being a Republican... (2.00 / 5)
And having Michele Bachman in your Party must be like having a phone with a really obnoxious ringtone that you just can't ever turn down or off.

heh (2.00 / 7)
Don't forget Palin.  Or King (Steve).  Or King (Peter).  Or Grassley.  Or Issa.  Jiminy, the list is long.

My hope is that Bachmann goes away if she loses her seat.  Palin may be fading but she stills manages to spout off now and again.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


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Today... (2.00 / 6)
I hope her nonsense is broadcast far and wide; it amplifies every ugliness and falsehood of Romney's recent blunder on the day he is contritely, and quietly, trying to walk it back.  The whole party is unfit to govern and Americans aren't that stupid.  Are they?

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Whereas Ryan... (2.00 / 6)
Having had the opportunity to craft a suitably mendacious blancmange of prejudice and ignorance, topped with a big lie, attempts to crawl out of the wreckage with Tea Party bona fides intact:


He told the crowd that "amid all these threats and dangers, what we do not see is steady, consistent American leadership."

Any further proof required that he is an enthusiastic and bold liar?  Seriously, this guy is Richard Nixon's evil political twin; thin-skin, five-o'clock shadow and all.


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A Bachmann example (2.00 / 4)
from the Washington Post transcript:

They [Organization for Islamic Cooperation] had a 10-year plan of action to implement their Shariah-based, Islamic-based speech code requirements worldwide. But don't take my word for it. They published this plan on their website in English so no one would miss their intent. They intend to internationally criminalize all communication or any communication or speech that's deemed by them to be insulting to Islam, even in countries like the United States. That, my friends, explains the story of this week - Islamic-enforced speech codes. No one, not Muslims, not non-Muslims, not Americans, are allowed to speak anything Islamists see as insulting to their religion. They intend to force us to kiss our freedom of speech and religion goodbye, and that's why we're being forewarned today. (Applause.)

They published it on their website! In English!!!

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


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"The Story of This Week" (2.00 / 5)
Is the flame-out of their candidate as he tries to rotate the campaign off the runway, overburdened by miscues, claptrap and falsehoods, while she's doing a hysterical life-vest demonstration in coach.  Send the foam truck.

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Yes, and the Christians wants everyone to worship Jesus, (2.00 / 3)
the Buddhists want us all to follow Buddha, and the Wiccans want us all to honor trees.

So what? It isn't like it is going to happen, it's just what religions do. When I was a Christian I wanted everyone else in the world to be one, too.

I also wanted a pony.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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Oh. so there's something from today? (2.00 / 4)


"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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Usual Caveat... (2.00 / 6)

Don't look into the subjects eyes:


The thrust of Bachmann's speech: Obama and his administration are appeasing - possibly even aiding - Muslims who want to dictate what Americans can say about Islam, and prioritizing Muslims' feelings over the safety of the country.

Evan McMorris-Santaro - Bachmann Seizes On Mideast Tensions, Calls Obama 'Most Dangerous President' TPM 14 Sep 12

"Possibly even aiding?"  Just scaring sane voters, frankly, and reminding them of what a boof-head Romney recently was.


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I wonder if even the usual 27% takes her seriously anymore. (2.00 / 4)
In a just world she'd be a pariah after her recent comments about radical Muslims (in her world there aren't any other kind)  in the government.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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I'm So Proud (2.00 / 6)
Overheard half of my son's conversation with another on-line gamer:


"The last thing we need is another Reagan."

[long pause]

"Well Reagan could do one thing well, he worked with Democrats."

[long pause]

"What we need is another Clinton."

[longer pause]

"Oh wait...  We've got one; his name's Obama."

Heh.


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So... (2.00 / 7)
This is Romney's executive business experience talking?:


GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You cite your own studies.  But one of the studies you cite by Martin Feldstein at Harvard shows that to make your math work, it could work, if you eliminate the home mortgage, charity, and state and local tax deductions for everyone earning over $100,000. Is that what you propose?

MITT ROMNEY: No, that's not what I propose. And, of course, part of my plan is to stimulate economic growth. The biggest source of getting the country to a balanced budget is not by raising taxes or by cutting spending. It's by encouraging the growth of the economy. So my tax plan is to encourage investment in growth in America, more jobs, that means more people paying taxes. So that's a big component of what allows us to get to a balanced budget.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: But his study, which you've cited, says it can only work if you take away those deductions for everyone earning more than $100,000.

MITT ROMNEY: Well, it doesn't necessarily show the same growth that we're anticipating. And I haven't seen his precise study. But I can tell you that we can lower our rates -

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, you cited the study, though.

Jonathan Chait - Romney: My Magic Tax Plan Will Repeal Laws of Arithmetic New York 14 Sep 12

Ahh...  So some undefined CEO magic growth invisible to plebes, economists and mortals?  This is exactly the kind of policy you might concoct if you believed the incumbent was managing a recovery of which you would reap the benefit if only you could get elected by telling porkies and spreading insidious doubt.  A long con; I'm beginning to think that "mastermind" Mitt's business experience amounted to an institutional version of running a Three-card Monty table.

And simple arithmetic is suddenly a deadly political weapon in the hands of journalists?  Who knew?  Thanks, Bill.


He hasn't even read the study. (2.00 / 7)
But cites it.  Jesus effin' Christ.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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More and more (2.00 / 7)
I'm convinced that Romney's Bain success came from being a figurehead, while competent people did the actual work and kept him away from having any power to screw things up.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

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I give him credit for his work there. (2.00 / 4)
It aligns well with what I know about him.

But it just doesn't scale imho to national planning. It is remarkably simple to make crazy, hairy, chaotic startups and inefficient companies efficient. It is like improving the effectiveness of a machine some inventor hacked together with the materials he had laying around: instead of an old broom handle you use a titanium strut; replace the nylon rope with a custom made carbon-fiber line and use high-grade grease instead of bacon fat.

It is the same process the Mormon and Japanese population in general use to be very successful taking over markets other people create. But it is a pedantic process-driven approach rather than a complex or creative one. It does not map inherently to the human complexities of sociology or national politics.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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Follow the Money (2.00 / 6)
Paroled Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, zealot-porn movie "logician," convicted fraudster and wannabe meth-chemist, turns out to have had a plea bargain with the Feds involving evidence against "Eiad Salameh, a notorious fraudster who has been tracked for more than a decade by state and federal investigators."

I've got to say the "film" end of this mystery is full of trap-doors and false trails.  It's as fishy as Fulton Market:


Though many key documents from the U.S. District Court case remain sealed, a June 2010 sentencing transcript provides an account of Nakoula's cooperation with federal investigators in Los Angeles.

[...]

In his debriefings, Nakoula said he was recruited as a "runner" by Salameh, who pocketed the majority of money generated by the bank swindles, according to James Henderson, Nakoula's attorney.

Producer Of Anti-Islam Film Was Fed Snitch Smoking Gun 14 Sep 12

While the Right wishfully supposes this somehow implicates the Federal government with the "film" (well done, true patriots you lot) what it tells me is that the money to produce the film could have come from just about anywhere.


Uh-oh (2.00 / 5)
Referring to the earlier 1997 drug related offence:


The bust came around the time the feds were launching Operation Mountain Express, which would become a huge investigation into pseudoephedrine-dealing involving numerous people of a Middle Eastern background. The authorities initially insisted there were no links to terrorism, but suddenly switched and decided that a chunk of the money was going to Hizbullah.

"I'm satisfied that portions of the drug sales have moved back to the Middle East and portions of that are going to support terrorist organizations," said then DEA Administrator Asa Hutchinson.

Christine Pelisek - Was 'Innocence of Muslims' Director Also an Informant? Daily Beast 14 Sep 12

Does this suggest we'll have to remove our shoes before posting videos to YouTube for the next decade?


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Heh (2.00 / 5)
So far Kossacks are diligently trying to connect the dots between Pam Geller and Joseph Nassralla via Media for Christ, we've got a tenuous trail between Nakoula Basseley Nakoula and Hizbullah, a crazy Copt, a bunch of embarrassed porn stars and Steve Klein.

Seems to me we've narrowed it down to anyone who hates either Islam or the West, has never made a movie, can raise $50k in LA County and has the IQ of a raccoon.


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Yeesh, this is just surreal. (2.00 / 5)


Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


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Ah... (2.00 / 3)
Now a hapless director.  Poor sod, he finally directed a "big" film:


The anti-Islam film that's set off a firestorm in the Middle East was directed by a 65-year-old schlock director named Alan Roberts, we've confirmed. He's the creative vision behind softcore porn classics like The Happy Hooker Goes Hollywood.

Adrian Chen - Confirmed: The Director of Innocence of Muslims Is a Schlocky Softcore Porn Director Named Alan Roberts Gawker 14 Sep 12

Yeah, the irony of all of this approaches bizarre.


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[ominous organ intro] (2.00 / 2)
Not to mention [dom,dom,dom] the Church at Kaweah.  Had a feeling I was going to be linking to the SPLC before this was over.  You don't suppose...

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To Be Fair... (2.00 / 3)
SPLC says "nothing linking" them to the movie though there's a mutual connection with Klein; they're clearly militant Dominionists but they don't seem to be very accomplished paramilitaries.

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Speaking of surreal (2.00 / 4)
There's a poll out from the oddfellows team of Yahoo and Esquire which asks the question regarding Obama and Romney:

"Who would win in a fistfight?"

The results:

Obama 58%, Romney 22%, no opinion 20%.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.


*ONLY* 58%?!?!?! (2.00 / 4)
wtf?  I'mma need to see the crosstabs.  That's janky.

lulz

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Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


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fershizzle (2.00 / 6)
Just imagine Romney's reaction if he saw this coming at him:

obama_punch

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.


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disclaimer for lurkers: (2.00 / 2)
not advocating actual violence; visual metaphor.

also, photobucket is fritzing on me, and i can't upload, so here's a damn linky:

http://mariopiperni.com/wp-con...

Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


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eewwwwww (2.00 / 2)
Also, yuck.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

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Okay. I find that strangely hawt. (2.00 / 5)
Really hawt.  Gotta go ...

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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look everybody, i figured out romney's tax plan!!!!1! (2.00 / 6)
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Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (2.00 / 7)
You may be on to something.  I was thinking more along these lines:

Romney/Ryan budget

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.


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I have a dim pubescent memory (2.00 / 7)
of seeing that cartoon when it was originally published in Playboy. While reading the articles ...

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

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A cartoon that uses "explicit" found in Playboy. (2.00 / 7)
Wait ... what is Playboy?!  That's a sporting magazine, right?  Or have they always expected the "reader" to ... uh ... play with ... uh ... never mind.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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Why has Romney pulled out of PA you ask? (2.00 / 7)
Because the latest polling has him down 50%-39%.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

Damn. (2.00 / 7)
Why call it a battleground? Lean Dem my ass. PA is ours! All ours! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Just because they are posting on a progressive site doesn't make them progressives. - John Allen

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Heh ~ he's down 10 in Michigan, too. (2.00 / 7)
Dude may lose all four states in which he has a home.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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Jesus (2.00 / 4)
Landslide.

Howard Dean is my guy. (in a strictly nonsexual fashion)

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Yeah, I don't expect this to be close. (2.00 / 4)
It's all over but the crying (that's just started).

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

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Ah... (2.00 / 3)
You know better, Chris, I know you do.  I'm guessing that Romney is going to be eating Obama's dust also but a slight tightening of the polls or a minor headwind and we are right back to fretting and clenched teeth.  A week is a long time in politics and I have seen Republicans shave 2% off the polls on election day time and time again.

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You do, but I just can't caveat everything every time (2.00 / 4)
"Close" is a relative thing. You know me well enough to probably do an impression of me expanding that to three long paragraphs where I talk about just those things and sum up that the final numbers being in the common zone of a couple percent of the popular vote and electoral college numbers that (to the constant consternation of people trying to figure out how our democracy works) don't directly reflect that.

That's the nice thing about being known. You don't always have to use all the words.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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Interesting Summation... (2.00 / 4)
Of recent events in the Middle East and Africa:


So the Butterfly Effect set off by a low-budget bad propaganda film gotten up by two-bit frauds and Christian supremacists, and then promoted by two-bit Egyptian and Libyan fundamentalists, has provoked some squalls and cost the lives of four good men.

The storm provoked by this butterfly has revealed character on an international scale. The steely determination of an Obama to achieve justice, the embarrassing grandstanding of a Romney, the destructive hatred of a handful of extremists in Cairo and Benghazi, and the decency and warmth toward the US of the Libyan crowds, all were thrown into stark relief by the beating of the butterfly's wings.

In the end, the violence and extremism of the hardliners on both sides is a phantasm of the past, not a harbinger of the future. The wave of democratic politics sweeping the region has left the haters behind, reducing them to desperate and senseless acts of violence that will gain them no good will, no popularity, no political credibility.

Juan Cole - Romney Jumps the Shark: Libya, Egypt and the Butterfly Effect Informed Comment 13 Sep 12

Personally I think Juan, who is conceptually invested in the success of the Arab Spring movement, tends to be a bit optimistic but I share his view more closely than that of our mainstream media.  Cole points out, interestingly, that the Muslim Brotherhood lost the election for prime minister last Wednesday in Eqypt, an event I did not notice mentioned by our somewhat insular commentariat.


I agree with Juan. (2.00 / 3)
The region is not sliding backward, it is generally moving forward. Also agree on the real and perceived difference in approaches by Obama and Romney (and, god help us, Crazy Eyes). The President is being Presidential, Romney is being crass and CE is acting (exactly, precisely, indistinguishably) like those who incite violence in the region.

Those in America who count the entire Middle East (and more broadly, all of Islam) as "our enemies" are our enemies. They do not speak with the spirit or the history or the intent or the best interests of our nation.

The Arab Spring is real. The population of the region consists of people who are intrinsically no different than those associated with "We, the". Any other view is contrary to the very fundamentals of who we are as a nation and directly in line with the views of those who would keep those people down.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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Yeah... (2.00 / 4)
The thing I find interesting, and a positive development, is that this "uprising" tends to force states like Libya and Egypt to make clear choices about their tolerance for jihadist activism.  It is hard for them to disentangle their sympathies from their duty as custodians of orderly states ruled by law; sharia or otherwise.  In some respects this was a predictable outcome but their leadership will be forced to set clear demarcations between acceptable and unacceptable "dissent" among their more excitable fractions.

The news today contains a few titbits; Sudan has refused the extra Marines sent to protect the US embassy in Khartoum, Salafist Bedouins are attacking a Multi-national Force base out in the Sinai and the FBI investigating team sent to Benghazi has been stalled for unspecified reasons.  In each case the country involved is going to have some tough choices to make in how they respond; better we know now where these sovereign governments stand on issues currently prosecuted by their respective mobs.


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It is as complex a path as would seem inevitable to anyone looking past headlines and stump speeches. (2.00 / 3)
Leaderships in the region need to look to the past and plan for the future. This will be a mixed-success phenomenon, but the arc of history is bending in one direction and isn't going to change.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

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Increasing Signs... (2.00 / 6)
Netanyahu's bigfoot impersonation the other night went pear-shaped for him:


"Who are you trying to replace?" the opposition leader, Shaul Mofaz, asked of Netanyahu in the Knesset on Wednesday. "The Administration in Washington or that in Tehran?"

David Remnick - Neocon Gambits New Yorker 12 Sep 12

Defence Minister, Ehud Barak, immediately distanced himself from the public debacle:


Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Tuesday that "Israel and the United States should find a way to resolve their differences behind closed doors."

Attila Somfalvi - Barak urges discretion on Israel-US differences Yedioth Ahronoth 11 Sep 12

Let us hope cooler heads prevail; Netanyahu is on the brink of precipitating not only a crisis in US-Israeli relations but quite possibly a disastrous war for all concerned.  I've never seen sentiment towards Israel at such a low ebb among liberal media and progressives as in recent days.


Just Read... (2.00 / 3)
Netanyahu's Meet the Press interview transcript and it is absolutely first-class bafflegab; whomever his spin doctor is he's a cinch for the Nobel Prize for Double-talk:


PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU:  Well, you're-- you're trying to get me into the-- into the American election and I'm not going to do that.

Lordy.  Bibi, the mere fact of you sitting there just now threading a tiny needle with five-dollar words speaks volumes.  I've got to give the man credit, though, he stuck the landing on a very difficult routine; he basically said absolutely nothing and yet everyone knows the deal.


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I read that Gregory referred to Netanyahu as "leader of the Jewish (2.00 / 3)
People."

Hunh.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


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Indeed (2.00 / 4)
But he is an ass on his best day.  It was a gold medal performance by Bibi, though.  I suppose if you did the algebra and divided both sides of his double-speak by y2 - 1 you could say x = "he dropped Romney in the poop" but it was way, way over the heads of the commentariat and there was enough verbal window dressing to keep Right-wing polemicists happy with crafted quotes and partial sound bites.  A remarkable performance, really, like a cat landing on its feet after some ill-advised adventure and pretending you weren't watching.

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This Whole Business... (2.00 / 6)
Of Romney jumping the shark over the tragic events of Tuesday would be less damaging if the Right had not become habitually and reflexively strident in their inability to admit a mistake, or even a tactical error, and move on.  No...  They drill-down to the most inexcusable aspect of the affair, that Obama somehow "sympathises" with a jihadist street mob, and restate it endlessly as if truth were measured in decibels or word counts.  It defies all political sense.

This, in turn, catches the attention of Romney's campaign, ever attuned to the whims of their "base," who feel empowered or obliged to reinforce what would be best forgotten at every media opportunity for another few news cycles.  Their echo-chamber has really become a tar-pit for Romney and a profound weakness of the entire movement.

It's almost as though they think saying the most damnable nonsense and still getting 27% of the popular vote is some kind of victory.  Can someone explain this to me?  This is the Fox News business model, not a political strategy.


Immediately I thought of: (2.00 / 6)
The emo-prog screeching for the bully pulpit, the bully pulpit, in every difficult political negotiation, in every complex legislative battle, the ever-lasting, omnipotent, if-only-Obama-would-listen-to-ME! bully pulpit.

For zealots of all stripes, the answer to every obstacle is to scream louder, to increase the decibels proclaiming the True Faith, which will surely convert the heathen and batter one's enemies into confusion and submission.  When it doesn't work, then failure is because (a) the shouting wasn't loud enough; (b) dark nebulous forces of evil intervened; (c) the bully-pulpiteer was No True Scotsman; (d) all of the above.

In the present circumstances, we are blessed with a level-headed President who refuses to be rattled by the howls from what, in between bouts of undermining him as a traitor to the cause, proclaims itself his "base".
 

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.


[ Parent ]
Heh... (2.00 / 5)
On the rare occasions I go to the city I like to stop and chat with the Socialist Weekly hawker in much the same way one might linger over a historical marker; on a really good day the young provocateur will not only recall Stalin but have a stab at his rehabilitation.  It really cheers me up somehow.

[ Parent ]
Speaking of emo-progs (2.00 / 5)
There is a reclist OWS porn diary over at GOS. The usual suspects are completing the compulsories of Democratic Party slamming and Black Knight protestations of "it's only a flesh wound!".

Years from now, when Shaun's Socialist Weekly hawker goes to the Great Collective in the Sky, he will be replaced by an OWS dead-ender, eyes locked on his smartphone, waiting for the flashmob Bat signal that never comes.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


[ Parent ]
er, (2.00 / 3)
MrSpock: Real Vulcans don't use money (3+ / 0-)
Switching to a non-monetary economy (specifically, a gift economy) is probably the only thing that might still save humanity.

A "non-monetary economy"...

Gift economies in open source development, blood drives and small isolated communities work well. Basing global economics purely on aggregate goodwill is outrageously naive and a context for failure (and this from someone who often feels alone in believing people are intrinsically good and decent).

Maybe in a few hundred or a thousand years when physical goods are created with no effort or expense, but even then I doubt it very much.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
But MrSpock's reply was Cosmic (2.00 / 3)
Nah, I'm not in the giving mood (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by:
   virginislandsguy

by MrSpock on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 11:47:49 PM PDT

And no, you are not alone

in believing people are intrinsically good and decent

as long as you remember the Rule that "One in Seven persons is a Jerk"
Corollary: One in Seven Jerks is a Major League Asshole
Corollary2: One in Seven Major League Assholes is a Sociopath

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

[ Parent ]
Well... (2.00 / 6)
The Romney campaign process soap-opera fall season has commenced:


This article is based on accounts from Romney aides, advisers and friends, most of whom refused to speak on the record because they were recounting private discussions and offering direct criticism of the candidate and his staff, [Stuart Stevens] in particular.

Mike Allen and Jim Vandehei - Inside the campaign: How Mitt Romney stumbled Politico 16 Sep 12

Romney comes in for a bit more direct criticism than one would expect at this stage; half of his staff are probably already looking for book deals.  This is not the kind of stuff you want competing for news cycles seven weeks out from election day.


Damn you! (2.00 / 6)
I was researching my comment when you blind-sided me with your reference to the same link. I blame the international date-line.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

[ Parent ]
Gotta Be Quick (2.00 / 5)
The Moose is a global aggregator.



[ Parent ]
Via Twitter BuzzfeedAndrew was wondering why Drudge (!) (2.00 / 5)
previewed Politico's story given that Matt Drudge is friends with a Romney campaign person whose name is also Mat but I cannot remember his last name.  Paint stripping fumes are rendering me slightly brain fatigued.

Anyway, the Romney folks cannot be happy at all that there are these accounts coming out now.  How many lugnuts have come lose on the Romney/Ryan Express?  Which reminds me that social conservatives apparently are preparing to prop up Ryan in case things continue their southernly trend.

Oh and Christine O'Donnell is threatening thinking about running for the Senate again.  All I can say is, "you go, girl."

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
Holy Hotboxing, Batman! (2.00 / 4)
I thought I would drop in at Redstate and the first thing I run into is this article:

The Film Maker Is Arrested
By: Erick Erickson (Diary)

Glenn Reynolds has all the details on the arrest of the film maker who made the movie that Barack Obama says caused riots throughout the Middle East.

I'm going to be charitable here and presume that the man was arrested on other issues that would not have come to light had such much light been pointed in his direction this past week. Note in the picture it is local authors, not federal authors putting him in a police car. That suggests to me there is more going on here.

But, presuming that, if we really are dealing with people who really are rioting because of a badly produced movie that's been on the internet for a while and they weren't offended until subtitles were added a week or so ago, are we not now conveying a strong message to them that, in fact, the government can punish blasphemers? And if so, doesn't that now give them incentive to riot every time someone in the United States pisses them off?

Or maybe it really wasn't about a movie and the movie is just the scapegoat.

Oh, jeez, where to start?

How about with the first comment?

He wasn't arrested, nor was he in handcuffs. It was a "voluntary interview" reviewing his probation. One of the requirements of his probation is that he cannot access the internet without the approval of his probation officer. Since the "movie" was on YouTube, it's reasonable to question how it got there. Let's not make stuff up. It looks bad for the movement as a whole.

That is reasonable, fact based and accurate - including the last sentence about the Right's Leading Blogger and spokesperson damaging the side's credibility by getting all the facts wrong.

Of course the other comments smooth out the image of a horde of rabid xenophobes and create a zone of sanity.

Well, maybe not...

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


The Poor Dears (2.00 / 4)
It's Gotterdammerung performed by a chorus of kazoos over there.

[ Parent ]
Okay (2.00 / 4)
Now, this zinger is a guffaw-maker for sure.  The image it evokes....... oh, my.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

[ Parent ]
Meanwhile, in Romneyland (2.00 / 6)
The well-oiled campaign juggernaut is "retooling" its brilliant messaging for the stretch run:

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is launching a new effort this week to inject energy and fresh policy details into a campaign that Republicans have criticized as listless and light on substance.

Romney will deliver a series of high profile speeches in the coming weeks, including one at the Clinton Global Initiative next week in New York City, to flesh out more specifics on what, exactly, Romney would do differently from President Obama if he captures the White House in November.

Could glimmers of reality be leaking through the shutters on the campaign bus?

A Romney campaign official acknowledged to CNN that Romney has not done enough to give voters a sense of what he would do if elected.

"Polling shows that voters recognize that Gov. Romney has a plan, but they want more details," said the official, who was granted anonymity to discuss internal campaign strategy. "Voters feel like they want to know more. It's not only true of Gov. Romney but also President Obama."

Notice the flailing swipe at "both sides do it" in that last sentence.

But of course, this is not the sign of a failing campaign lunging desperately for a game changer, any game changer, nossirree!

The new focus on policy detail comes amid reports of campaign infighting, with chief strategist Stuart Stevens bearing the brunt of the blame for a Republican convention that failed to deliver any serious momentum for Romney.

Campaign sources refused to characterize the new substance offensive as a strategy shift in the face of stagnant poll numbers, even though Republicans in Washington and elsewhere have said privately since the Democratic National Convention that Romney needs to shake up his message if he wants to win.

Meanwhile, the spinning on tactics has reached wind farm proportions:


Another Romney adviser embraced the challenge of being an underdog and said incumbents typically lead their challengers until the closing days of a campaign.

The adviser said the campaign made a calculated gamble to lay low during the Democratic Convention, even if it allowed President Obama to dominate that week's news cycle and secure a post-convention bump.

"We went dark over the convention and that saved us $20 million and we did it very deliberately knowing that when we came out of the convention we'd have less of a bump," the adviser said. "$20 million is $20 million, and you're competing against that other message. We are very disciplined about it. We would rather spend our $20 million now in an uncluttered environment."

And in succinct summation of the Romney run for President:

Asked to describe the new tone of the Romney message, the adviser answered, "It's just a winning the election package."


If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

Interesting, a substance-free set of points about substance. (2.00 / 6)
What happened to carpet-bombing and massive financial support?

Who cares about $20M when your corporate financiers - I mean, legal-individuals-who-happen-to-be-corporations - can flush unlimited (um, "invest") cash in a sure-thing winner?

Ah, the gentle whisper of gossamer threads parting...

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
Down 49-0 at halftime to Oklahoma State (2.00 / 5)
Savannah States coach remarked that he
embraced the challenge of being an underdog
The Tigers went on to lose 84-0.

Next up:

and said incumbents typically lead their challengers until the closing days of a campaign.
when they also typically kick their challengers asses. FTFY

And

It's just a winning the election package.
is not even worthy of a Provo dog catchers campaign.

"Romney Collapse" Google Watch

9/4-9/10  14 results
9/11-9/17 26 results

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


[ Parent ]
Whoops (2.00 / 6)
Who let the dogs out; Romney got videotaped speaking at a fundraiser:


Fielding a question from a donor about how he could triumph in November, Romney replied:


There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax.

Romney went on: "[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

David Corn - SECRET VIDEO: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters Mother Jones 17 Sep 12

He's talking about us and not very nicely.  Screw him.  That is just ignorant.


[ Parent ]
This is the part that gets me. (2.00 / 6)
I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Fucking entitled (!) asshole.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
Either... (2.00 / 5)
He's lying to them or he is unfit to govern.

[ Parent ]
Seconded. (2.00 / 5)
Not what I was looking for to make my point, but this is the difference between the Romney view of capitalism and mine.

I need a more bileful set of words or images.

Disrespectful, arrogant, sneering, smug sonofabitch.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
heh (2.00 / 6)
markos 5:22pm via TweetDeck

Romney is trying to find room to add JUST ONE MORE NAIL to his coffin



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
Couldn't hurt (2.00 / 6)
robdelaney 5:52pm via Web

.@MittRomney Now's as good a time as any to admit you didn't pay taxes in 2009.



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
So the Uniter in Chief says: (2.00 / 6)
"Half of (you) Americans are a bunch of assholes."

"And I will Lead You to Glory."

...

if the 47% who don't pay taxes are not voting for you (many of whom are Republicans) and another large chunk of us who do pay taxes are not voting for you, what does that leave you?

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
FYI (not directed at Chris) (2.00 / 5)
... you might be wondering how it is that so many people end up not paying any federal income tax. Today the Tax Policy Center has the answer for you. In 2011 they estimate that 46% of Americans will pay no federal income tax. Donald Marron breaks this down:

   23% pay nothing because they're poor. A couple making less than $19,000, for example, doesn't owe anything after their $11,600 standard deduction and two exemptions of $3,700 each reduce their taxable income to zero. As Bob Williamson puts it, "The basic structure of the income tax simply exempts subsistence levels of income from tax."
   10% are elderly and pay nothing because their Social Security benefits are exempt from federal income taxes.
   7% pay nothing thanks to provisions in the tax code designed to benefit low-income families: the earned income tax credit, the child credit, and the childcare credit account.

And the other 6%? Their taxes are zero for a variety of reasons: above-the-line deductions and tax-exempt interest; itemized deductions; education credits; other credits; and reduced rates on capital gains and dividends. TPC's report has all the gruesome details.

http://www.motherjones.com/kev...

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
So... (2.00 / 4)
Can someone explain to me why elderly voters vote Republican?

[ Parent ]
The same reason folks on Medicare/Medicaid are (2.00 / 5)
screaming to keep government out of their healthcare?

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
Lots of subgroups there in the 66->99ers (2.00 / 6)
You got the Eisenhower/Rockefeller/Taft Republicans, including the Evans Rs from my WA neck of the woods who still vote R due to inertia. Then you've got the Reagan Dems who switched largely due to mandatory school busing.

Next up are the Future Shock group that watches Fox News who are flat out scared by the cultural and technological changes they have witnessed in the last 20 years.

But there is hope. My 94 yo mother, an Eisenhower Republican, has been saying all the right things about Obama, abortion rights and gay marriage. On the other hand, she knows she better or we'll withhold her meds.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


[ Parent ]
I know those numbers, (2.00 / 5)
they showed up here before.

23% of people are just poor! They don't have the freaking money to pay federal taxes, but they pay sales and a thousand other taxes every day.

10% live on social security, because they are old and poor and worked all their lives.

7% use the tax deductions Romney uses. I know millionaires who have been very happy that they managed to pay no income taxes in a given year.

Piss off, Mitt.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
As Ezra Klein points out we've used the tax code (and credits/cuts) (2.00 / 5)
to deal with poverty.  And then wonder why the poor don't pay any income tax.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
If my Twitter tl is any indication Romney has a *serious* (2.00 / 4)
problem.  I'm trying to remember, though, that Obama's "guns and religion" comments didn't sink him.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
Heh (2.00 / 4)
"It's hard to serve as president for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation."

-- Obama campaign manager Jim Messina, commenting on the hidden camera video showing Romney talking disparagingly of 47% of all voters.


[ Parent ]
Which half, though ... (2.00 / 3)
http://twitpic.com/avrlm4



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
That's a Shocker (2.00 / 3)
It's them.  Methinks we shall hear more of this in hours/days to come.

[ Parent ]
Heh ~ blame in on the black/brown folks. Teh white ones (2.00 / 3)
aren't moochers.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
I'm seeing that Romney also said he wants 10-20k troops in (2.00 / 5)
Iraq.

(And Jennifer Rubin thinks Romney won last week's cycle and the new video seals the deal.)  To be fair, Romney isn't saying anything that many conservatives don't think.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
Reince Preibus tells CNN that Romney's not off messge at all. (2.00 / 5)
And he's not.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
No (2.00 / 4)
But there's a few things here that are profoundly toxic and doubling down won't help.  Firstly, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to assume that this is the real Romney that has eluded us on the campaign trail and it is obvious why such pains were taken to conceal it, it is not pretty.  He comes across as a real asshole and Americans are good at noticing things like that.

Secondly Americans have this curious folk tradition that the president represents the whole of the people and Romney specifically refutes his participation in this scheme; this is divisive.  I know Obama's "cling" comments will be referenced but if you actually listen to Obama's full quote he is explaining his obligation to represent them too, not throw them under the bus.  Romney not so much.

Finally, it doesn't take much critical analysis to see that this attitude of Romney's exposes a large portion of his campaign platitudes about protecting popular entitlement programs as mere gloss and falsehood.  That might sink in; we'll see.  It is a major policy headache given the smoke and mirrors so far deployed; we can guess now what his policy will be in the absence of specifics.

Furthermore, this 47% thing is a knee-jerk simplification of a complex issue, beloved of the Right, which doesn't hold up under investigation.  That Romney would just accept this at face value as the cornerstone of his governing philosophy betrays a shallowness already hinted at by the perception of him as remote and vague CEO; more cheerleader than achiever and clearly not cheerleading for you in this case.

I think it really hurts and the timing is just awful.


[ Parent ]
I'm seeing a lot of comments about his contemptuous tone. (2.00 / 4)
I watched the video with the sound down so I'll have to give it another go.

I also think the next couple of days will be really interesting as folks listen to and digest all that he said.  There's a bit where Romney apparently suggested doing away with the child tax credit (do cats count?) so those people would pay (more) taxes.  Then the bit about the troops in Iraq.

As a commenter at Balloon Juice pointed out Romney may be forced to address this himself and we know he can't manage damage-control very well.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
The One Thing... (2.00 / 3)
That he has successfully communicated to the electorate recently is that he just ain't saying which deductions he would eliminate; now we think we know why.  Not good.

[ Parent ]
:) (2.00 / 5)
jbarro 5:06pm via TweetDeck

Pretty clever of Stuart Stevens to leak this video so the blame for the campaign's failure shifts back to Mitt.



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
So it looks like Mitt stepped in it but good! (2.00 / 6)
Holy crap!!

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

what. a. dick. (2.00 / 6)
he gets worse and worse with the passing moments.  whate are we, like 50 days out now?


Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


[ Parent ]
Yeah... (2.00 / 5)
The timing for this particular video drop was deadly; like bullseye on a Womp Rat.

[ Parent ]
The timing was both deadly and ... interesting (2.00 / 6)
The video was made at
... a private fundraiser earlier this year
...
which occurred after Romney had clinched the Republican presidential nomination.

So the video was held, then released to Mother Jones to go public with impeccable timing. I suspect there are several more bombshells primed for the weeks ahead.

OT, along with "Romney collapse", I'm going to track "Bishop Romney" on a weekly basis. Somehow, someway, the Democrats will use this issue, but most likely in a covert way to dampen Fundie turnout.
9/10-9/17 263 results

Also, my suggestion of Poupon/Coupon '12 didn't exactly catch fire but that won't stop me, NO! How about Sire/Liar '12 or Smirk/Jerk '12?

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!


[ Parent ]
Karma's a bitch (2.00 / 5)
Credited as a "research assistant" on the story is James Carter IV, the grandson of former President Jimmy Carter, who has been toiling online as an opposition researcher and is "currently looking for work," according to his Twitter bio. "I've been searching for clips on Republicans for a long time, almost every day," said Carter this evening. "I just do it for fun." But by connecting Corn with the mysterious uploader of the clip, Carter has uncovered his biggest story yet, one that could potentially affect the outcome of the election. (And get him a job.)

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2...  



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
snort (2.00 / 6)
daveweigel 7:09pm via TweetDeck

It didn't take. RT @PeterAlexander: In LA today, Romney received his first intelligence briefing, per campaign.



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

Hi! My name is Happy and I'm addicted to Twitter (2.00 / 5)
pourmecoffee 7:12pm via TweetDeck

Ask not what your country can do for you -- seriously, I'm not kidding don't ask because it's not going to happen. -- Mitt Romney



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
Whaddaya wanna bet? (2.00 / 5)
That Romney takes something he learns in an intelligence briefing and tries to make political hay with it, only to have his betrayal of national security blow up in his smugly smirking face?

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

[ Parent ]
Yep. (2.00 / 5)
Got his first NS briefing today as a matter of fact.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
google news, top stories (2.00 / 6)
top 5 headlines:

Romney: Nearly half 'believe they are victims'

Romney Distracted by Comments on Government-Dependent 'Victims'

Romney: Nearly half 'believe they are victims'

Highly Cited:Inside the campaign: How Mitt Romney stumbled

US requests WTO consultations with China over auto export subsidies


Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


Well... (2.00 / 5)
Conservatives are unrepentant and celebrating the "outing" of Romney as their true ideological standard-bearer who can now, finally, run the campaign McCain never did and win a solid, triumphant 27% of the vote.  So there.

[ Parent ]
From a surprising source? (2.00 / 4)
... So there you have it: Mitt Romney is just another practitioner of what I call reverse class warfare: the mindset that our economy would take off if everyone had "skin in the game" and wealth were even more concentrated at the top than it already is.

In the video, Romney is expressing a deeply ingrained belief among the Republican rank-and-file. The party is now virtually defined by reverse class warfare. It decries the "victim mentality" - yet it claims victimhood at the hands of the poor. It exudes contempt and disdain for fellow citizens -  yet it accuses the president of "pitting Americans against each other."

The substance is hardly new - by now I find it as boring as it is depressing - but I must say I found Romney's tone to be strikingly contemptuous. And his people wonder why their candidate is having trouble connecting with voters!

Newsflash: Romney isn't simply a stiff. He's a jerk.

The American Conservative  




"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

Heh (2.00 / 6)

801 comments, 10.6k Tweets, 15k Facebook likes and that's just on the original Mother Jones article. Oh boy. @DJBentley

Now CNN is all over it and it is really, really hard to spin nicely.  Poor Ari Fleisher.  Not to mention another news cycle down the toilet; so this is the campaign reboot?


[ Parent ]
By the way, I thought not paying taxes was a good thing. (2.00 / 4)


"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

Ahem (2.00 / 3)
Under Republican leadership, tax reform removed 6 million low-income people from the income tax rolls and brought financial relief to tens of millions more.

Source?  The Republican Party Platform of 1988.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
I like the highlighted part (2.00 / 4)
itvnews 8:43pm via Tweet Button

Video claims to show US presidential candidate Mitt Romney describing Obama supporters as tax dodgers and scroungers itv.com/news/update/20...



"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

TPM... (2.00 / 4)
Hit the nail on the head:


Behind closed doors, Mitt Romney sounds like the leaders of the far-right flank of his party.

Case closed, in spite of their self-righteous bloviating on anything and everything that is absolutely "devastating" to Romney's prospects to win national office.  What does that say about the contemporary Republican Party?


[ Parent ]
POTUS has done his own taxes. (2.00 / 6)
CINCINNATI -  President Obama today sharpened a personal line of attack on his Republican rival,  mocking Romney's tax proposals and renewing a charge that he is an outsourcing "pioneer."

"I've actually done my own taxes," Obama said, showing a hint of disdain for Romney at a rally in Eden Park. "I don't know about some of these other folks, but I've done them, you know...  So I know we can make it more simple and more fair."

 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...

Reminds me of a woman I worked with many years ago who told her children that she and her husband had to go "do their taxes" when they wanted to be intimate.  Apparently they did their taxes alot.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


To add to teh Crazy: (2.00 / 3)
Kansas considers removing Obama from ballot

A GOP-controlled board in Kansas is trying to decide whether to remove President Obama from the state ballot over objections about his birth certificate.

The State Objections Board -- consisting of three of the state's top Republican elected officials -- ruled Thursday it did not yet have enough information and postponed a decision until Monday.



John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

Heh ~ the guy who lost the GOP senate primary to face Sanders (2.00 / 2)
has filed suit here in Vermont.  The VT Republican Party is not supporting him, nor is the guy who beat him in the primary.  Apparently he believes POTUS was born in Hawaii but that both parents need to be citizens.  Guy couldn't find a local attorney to file for him so he used some guy from NJ Abruzzo, I think) who is a birther (or at least takes money from birthers.

Guy said he was unable to serve the President at his residence but the article doesn't say if that was the White House or the Chicago address.  :)

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette


[ Parent ]
FWIW, the guy in KS who filed the complaint has dropped it (2.00 / 2)
due to the response he received.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

[ Parent ]
Completely off topic (assuming there is one) (2.00 / 4)
But at the moment, two of the featured stories on cnn.com, reading left to right:

Bulging waistlines, higher health costs
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/...

Celebrate National Cheeseburger Day
http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2012/...

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.


Mmmm, Cheeseburgers... (2.00 / 4)
How I love your every form.

White Castle.
Big Mac
Whopper
In-N-Out

And all the one-offs with peameal bacon and other tasty treats!

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
Allow me to introduce you (2.00 / 3)
to the cheese skirt: http://thesqueezeinn.com/

sometimes, my fellow office rats and I track this truck down noontimes:  http://www.krushburger.com/

Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


[ Parent ]
Oh Holy Mother of Beef! (2.00 / 3)
Can I have that with a maple-bacon doughnut?



John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


[ Parent ]
I looked at that (2.00 / 2)
and my arteries seized up.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

[ Parent ]
It tastes even better than it looks. (2.00 / 2)
They make a Red Velvet doughnut that causes instant diabetes as well. I'm going to go there again some day and simply eat one of each alternately until I fall unconscious.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

[ Parent ]
sure (2.00 / 1)
or one of a different configuration...or something else entirely:

http://voodoodoughnut.com/doug...

Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 


[ Parent ]
Oooo, I'm going to Portland next week. (2.00 / 1)
Voodoo Doughnuts or bust!

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

[ Parent ]
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