Saturday Morning Check-in for Refugees and New Moose Friends

by: JanF

Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 07:02:28 AM EST




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JanF :: Saturday Morning Check-in for Refugees and New Moose Friends
I am going to try put together some notes on differences between Orange and Purple blogging to help folks who want to write here re-orient. There are more similarities than differences and I don't think it should take much to get up to speed.

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11 degrees in Madison WI (2.00 / 29)


Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

spacemanspiff here. (2.00 / 28)
boriquasi over at orange.

An all around sexy and mysterious beast who lives on a tiny island in tbe Caribbean called Borinquen by those who live here. It's always summer to me.

Sun is shining/ weather is sweet. - Robert Nesta Marley

Just because they are posting on a progressive site doesn't make them progressives. - John Allen

Thanks for the tie-back, spacemanspiff. (2.00 / 24)
I am not sure I would like "always summer". I like the seasons ... everything in moderation, as they say. ;)

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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Winter can end December 27. (2.00 / 25)
That would give it plenty of time to do what it needs to....
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and then move on.  

"Hair on fire complicates the decision of how to deal with the knot in your knickers while clutching your pearls with both hands." ~ wordsinthewind
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Wimp!! (2.00 / 28)


Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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heh (2.00 / 21)
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Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 
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Me likey seasons too! (2.00 / 24)
Especially a New England autumn; October is the bestest month of all.

Winter, eh, not too thrilled with, but the horses find ways to enjoy the white stuff.

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There's something about rolling in fresh snow, something even better than fresh mud.

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Running in the stuff is lotsa lotsa fun too.

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I shovel it; they romp in it; some guys have all the luck.

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If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

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You have horses? (2.00 / 18)
The Appaloosa hover is funny. A friend of mine has horses and back when she was a kid, her dad bred Appaloosas. She had an Appy named Spot ... so named because the horse had, quite literally, only one spot. She got to keep him.


Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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Got two (2.00 / 17)
A now officially 21-year-old Thoroughbred (May foal), a field hunter in his former life but for the last decade or so with me a trail horse, briefly dressage pony, and now retired pet, currently recovering from a torqued suspensory in his right hind, the same one he torqued last spring flinging about his paddock -- but this one he managed to do IN HIS STALL.

The other is a Morgan two years his senior, given to me in fall 2009 because he'd foundered and, while recovered to completely ridable, was no longer suitable for jumping.  We had about a year and a half of fun, then he had another bout of laminitis, recovered, another, sorta recovered...  Well.  He's now in Soft-Ride boots because therapeutic shoeing isn't enough, and I don't know how much longer he'll be paddock-potato comfortable even in them.

At least they provide a daily exercise program for me.  And lots of vet bills, I just love me more vet bills.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

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Pony Party!!!! (2.00 / 14)
I got my pony party!!!  Wheee!!!


"Fighting Fascism is Always Cool." -- Amsterdam Weekly, vol. 3, no. 18
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Morning - (2.00 / 29)
I haven't been at the Moose in a while, but I thought I'd check in. Hi, all...

No matter where you go, there you are...

Buckaroo Banzai

(((TRS))) (2.00 / 25)
Wonderful to see you!! How is it going?

"Hair on fire complicates the decision of how to deal with the knot in your knickers while clutching your pearls with both hands." ~ wordsinthewind
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I'm good (2.00 / 22)
Hoping I don't have to plow snow again for a while, and want it to warm up enough that I don't have to worry about pipes freezing in rentals that I may have to repair. Feel sorry for iriti today - she's going with me to a woodworking show in Baltimore.

No matter where you go, there you are...

Buckaroo Banzai

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Please tell her I said Hai (2.00 / 20)
and give her a BIG hug from me. Not a lot of snow here.... so far.  

"Hair on fire complicates the decision of how to deal with the knot in your knickers while clutching your pearls with both hands." ~ wordsinthewind
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Morning everyone! (2.00 / 24)
I actually had to turn the heat on this morning.  Brrrr!

Nice to see people coming here!

How can you be a Progressive but oppose progress?

Good morning, everyone. (2.00 / 29)
Have a great day. I am feeling virtuous because I finally finished my paper for the Society for Historical Archaeology next week.
Good for you! n/t (2.00 / 12)



"Fighting Fascism is Always Cool." -- Amsterdam Weekly, vol. 3, no. 18
(-8.50, -7.23)  
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G'Morning Jan, spacemanspiff, (2.00 / 28)
and everyone else passing through. This scene is about to play out in my living room. If you don't see my around later, you will know what happened to me.

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"Hair on fire complicates the decision of how to deal with the knot in your knickers while clutching your pearls with both hands." ~ wordsinthewind

Welcome to all Moose (both new and old)! (2.00 / 26)
Whether you are a neophyte or alumni...kick up your feet and make yourself at home.  /grin

For those of you who are fresh to the scene (and for those of you who just need a refresher), please give the Insider's Guide to Motley Moose a quick look.

It is a brief overview of some of the 'unwritten' rules and traditions of the Moose.

If you have any questions...just ask in any active diary (or use the 'Contact The Moose' link at the bottom of each page).

No matter how long you have been with us... Welcome home!




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I do have one question - (2.00 / 21)
Is there any way to have the page auto-refresh when new comments are made? Or is that not possible with the current set-up. It's one of those "it'd be nice, but not a big deal either way" things.

No matter where you go, there you are...

Buckaroo Banzai

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I got kind of spoiled by that also, trs. (2.00 / 21)
My method is to just re-click on the diary title again (it is at the top and on the bottom of the page). That refreshes and sets the [new] tags for new comments.

On Wordpress, it is much the same (no refresh). At least this does nice threading ... and we can post Pooties!!

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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While I know that that is beyond my technical skills... (2.00 / 21)
I also think it beyond SoapBlox' abilities (SoapBlox is actually called The Contributor now, but, my brain has not fully made the transition).

Unless/Until we switch over to WordPress, when it comes to the 'technology' here....what you see is what we've got.

Now, to be fair, I don't know if WordPress has the ability to auto-refresh the page with new comments either.

/grin

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Looks like Jan answered my WordPress pondering :) n/t (2.00 / 20)


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This format is pretty good. (2.00 / 21)
One thing I noticed is that it is REALLY fast.

Don't go changin' to try to please me ...

In purple, for the Moose


Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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Word Press does not, to my knowledge. (2.00 / 20)
I figured that was the case, but I just thought I'd check, in case the geek in me (iriti and Kidlet will tell you I am a big geek) was missing something. Thanks!

No matter where you go, there you are...

Buckaroo Banzai

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you are *so* nice (2.00 / 15)
All these disheveled, raggle-taggle peeps show up on your doorstep, and instead of snarling and calling the cops, you welcome them in and provide hot chocolate.

Merci buckets.

Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas. -- Anonymous

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Other than general topics of photography and birds that I will try again (2.00 / 22)
Are there any specific topics of interest that would be of interest we can write about?

Environmental activism....local or global or how they mix?

Local political issues that are activist based - like fighting GMOs in the US?

Wildlife advocacy, in my case Wolves, and whether there is a good connection between world and US. Also consideration of the pluses and minuses of big organizations like WWF.

I have avoided political blogging for a while now, but have been locally active forever. Willing to take ideas and put them out for discussion.

I will read and comment in your environmental activism posts. (2.00 / 22)
I think everyone likes local political issues. From my perspective (Wisconsin), what people are doing in their redstates and bluestates and what they are doing to getbacktheirstates are always interesting.

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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Thanks Jan! My real world is going to have me toning down the activist (2.00 / 21)
Moving to a 50/50 blue-red area and professionally needing to be neutral I will be itching to be active in some topics. A lot of CA issues are tail wagging the national dog stuff, like this year's GMO ballot measure.

Need to go back to thinking about how to write stuff...been a long time and I'm a bit rusty.

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Really... (2.00 / 23)
Moose is a collective. So feel free to write about anything at all : )



"I spend my days and nights pondering the meaning of life, the state of the universe, and the Home Shopping Network." -- Donald Roller Wilson

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G'morning all (2.00 / 24)
::looks around timidly::

Wow, what a friendly place!  I could get used to this.  :)

Ebby here.  Thank you to all the Moosers for welcoming so many newcomers.  I read only serious political posts anything and everything.

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And yes, I am a pootie poster.... :)

Human? (2.00 / 22)


"I spend my days and nights pondering the meaning of life, the state of the universe, and the Home Shopping Network." -- Donald Roller Wilson
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that cat has a perfect facial expression. (2.00 / 16)

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Yay, Ebby!! (2.00 / 21)
This calls for some basement cat posts ...


Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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Good morning.... (2.00 / 22)
Thanks to the beginnings of an annoying cold I'm laying very low today.

Timothy Egan, writing in The NYT......

In the season of starts and deep sleeps, the darkest, coldest time of the calendar, it's always worthwhile to force a wish list of better tomorrows. So, to beginnings:
~snip~
The press, which is all of us now, every blogger on a beach and tweeter at a traffic light, can pledge to stay inside the fact bubble. People who get their reality from Karl Rove at Fox or Rush Limbaugh on the radio woke up on the Election Day-after to the consequences of listening to political malpractice, live.
It's not just "the other side of the story" to say that global warming is a hoax or that Barack Obama is not an American citizen. It's a serious injection of misinformation into a nation already woefully misinformed. And it's a lapse for responsible journalists to air "both sides" without calling out the lie on one.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytim...


Love is the lasting legacy of our lives

{{{princesspat}}} (2.00 / 18)
Hope it's not a cold, maybe something like allergies. This bears repeating:

The press, which is all of us now, every blogger on a beach and tweeter at a traffic light, can pledge to stay inside the fact bubble.


"Do your little bit of good where you are; it is those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world." ~ Desmond Tutu
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and this (2.00 / 16)
it's a lapse for responsible journalists to air "both sides" without calling out the lie on one.

Again

it's a lapse for responsible journalists to air "both sides" without calling out the lie on one.

and again
it's a lapse for responsible journalists to air "both sides" without calling out the lie on one.

Will someone please pass this on to Tweetie and NPR and CBS and MSNBC and damn near everyone on the air these days?

OK, I'm done. Back to lurking.

Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas. -- Anonymous

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The "both parties are at fault" and giving the other side the (2.00 / 20)
opportunity to speak, simply to appear fair, makes me clench my teeth.

As Daniel P. Moynihan said:

"You can have your own opinion, but you can't have your own facts."

Go ahead and give both sides a place for their opinions but make sure that facts are just presented as, you know, facts.

I wish we had a free and honest press, princesspat. I am glad we have some of the Internet-based news sources which at least occasionally break through to the MSM. Think about Mother Jones and David Corn's brilliant work with the 47% tape. That may very well have changed an election.

Good morning! Keep that cold at bay.

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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Anyone have any thoughts on the potential Chuck Hagel nom? (2.00 / 16)
makes me think there could be some defense cuts in the queue.

Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 
Do you think that is the reason for the nomination? (2.00 / 16)
News of defense cuts delivered by a Republican probably won't be any more palatable to the protectors of the defense industry but it would certainly, to some extent, inoculate Democrats from being called "weak on defense".

I admit to not paying much attention to it yet. I was sad that they didn't nominate a Democrat because I think it plays into the Republicans Are Tough on Our Enemies meme. I would be less sad to think that it is to take some of the air out of that argument.

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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I'm speculating wildly (2.00 / 14)
...but I think it's an ingredient.  No defense contractor is ever going to find any cut palatable, but a republican secdef can help get them to the table.  Outside Greater Wingnuttia, Obama has already done much to 'take' national security issues away from the GOP.  After mangling AQ and well, you know...

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...polling has been (iirc) showing pretty steady gains for Obama and Democrats on defense, with folks trusting them more and more to handle those issues better than Republicans.  I think it does take some air out of the argument.  I don't know tons about Hagel, but by most accounts he'd be a capable administrator at the Pentagon.

Some decent background/context on Hagel in this New Republic piece (snippets):

He became interested in foreign policy after returning from Vietnam where he had served as an infantryman and had been twice wounded. He returned to finish college, where he read widely on the subject, and harbored doubts about American intervention, that would burst forth later.

Unlike some Prairie Republicans, Hagel was a committed internationalist who saw NATO, the United Nations the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund as essential to American foreign policy. He wanted the United States to exert influence internationally, but by working with other countries.

His Senate speech in favor of the resolution presciently warned that "we should not be seduced by the expectations of dancing in the streets after Saddam's regime has fallen."

As casualties mounted in Iraq, Hagel became an outright opponent of the war. He saw Bush making the same mistakes in Iraq that Lyndon Johnson had made in Vietnam - attempting to achieve a phantom victory by escalation. Always outspoken, Hagel hinted in 2007 that Bush should be impeached.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/...

Is he the best choice?  I dunno, but I can see why he deserves consideration.

Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 

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given the way (2.00 / 12)
the MIC controls pretty much everything, I don't look for anything substantive in the way of change no matter who's SecDef. But with a Republican in there, yes, it's possible that any cuts could be blamed over there.

I don't think Hagel is a stupid man, and he probably realizes that, too. But maybe he's ready to retire and wants to go out in some kind of blaze of Cabinet glory.

Laughing at your funny OBL thingie there.

Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas. -- Anonymous

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I was laughing at the OBL thing also. (2.00 / 10)
But I did not want to disrupt my Very Serious Post. Now that you broke the ice:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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well, sure (2.00 / 10)
...but you never know.  gates was instrumental in ending DADT, and that was certainly substantive.  if i've learned anything about obama, it's that his instincts are consistently better than mine, so i've grown to largely trust his calculations.  i don't think a pick like this is so much about sharing blame for cuts, though that's a potential bonus in the short-term, but instead 1.) competence to serve and 2.) bipartisanship.  i know, i know, the b-word.  heh.  srsly though, the President really believes in it.  it's bedrock for him -- the notion that government can and should be a force for good in people's lives.  he rightly recognizes the toxic belief that government = evil as an existential threat to the Union; the galtian bootstrappers are increasingly being exposed for the frauds that they are, all while the the country grows more diverse, more secular, and more tolerant.  it's always (imo) about the long game with Obama.  he recognizes that he is at the vanguard of the age of democratic ascendency, and that while his presidency will forever be historic because of who and what he is, his job is all about results and groundwork for the future.


Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 
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He's been an advisor to POTUS, too, which I'd forgotten. (2.00 / 6)
Might be a logical step up.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette
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yup, and a respected one it appears. (2.00 / 5)


Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 
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i'd kinda like to see Gen Wesley Clark. (2.00 / 11)
I'd prefer a Dem for the optics... I hate the meme that the GOP is the party of security, and when the D's appoint an R to SecDef it reinforces that view.  That said, the actual action is more important than the perception when it comes to getting things done.  

Hagel's big business experience, especially with the voting machine company, makes me a little queasy.  But if he's serious and aligned with Obama's objectives, I think he can get things done.

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I thought of clark too (2.00 / 10)
he's been of the radar for awhile.

Earth is the best vacation place for advanced clowns. --Gary Busey
 
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You could be right, (2.00 / 10)
and that's not a bad thing at all -- so long as it's hardware/contract services expenditures and not enlisted salaries.  Too many young military families are on food stamps.  That shouldn't happen, especially when the hardware and services contractors are raking in tons of money.


"Fighting Fascism is Always Cool." -- Amsterdam Weekly, vol. 3, no. 18
(-8.50, -7.23)  
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Saw today via a twitter link (2.00 / 6)
that the Weekly Standard has a quote from Hagel in 2007 telling an audience that of course we went to war in the Middle East because of oil.  It "sure wasn't because of the figs" paraphrasing the former senator.  Kristol seemed to think the quote doomed Hagel's chances.  Makes me want him more.  Although ...

I wish Hagel was a Dem.  I wish one of the nominees for something was a minority or a woman (or both).  I have concerns about Hage'l's support for LGBT rights but I he is on the right (!) side of most of the DoD isses that are the biggest concerns right now.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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A Kossack (pittie700) who sometimes comments but mostly I lurk (2.00 / 18)
reading many diaries except those of the frustrati.  Think this will be a more calming place than GOS.

"I base most of my fashion sense on whether or not it itches"  -- Gilda Radner
Hi, pittiepat!!! (2.00 / 10)
Sorry to take so long to greet you! I had fallen into laziness and was used to not having many things to check online and now I have diaries to tend.

Good to see you here.

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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There you are! (2.00 / 11)
If anyone wants to blackmail me, pittiepat has the goods. We've been best friends for over four decades, so she knows where the bodies are buried.

"Do your little bit of good where you are; it is those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world." ~ Desmond Tutu
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Good afternoon! (2.00 / 16)
We may actually get some flakes to fall from the sky today, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I can't wait to see your MM vs GOS cliff's notes Jan. No pressure though.

::taps foot::

Shake it like a Polaroid picture.

I know you have been waiting for snow. (2.00 / 9)
You are most impatient!!

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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We have gone (2.00 / 9)
314 without snow on the ground, dammit!! How much long do I have to wait!
http://www.accuweather.com/en/...

Shake it like a Polaroid picture.
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MM vs GOS diff #86 (2.00 / 12)
Motley Moose is an Armando Free Zone

Heh.

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

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Ha! (2.00 / 9)
How booooring! ;)

Shake it like a Polaroid picture.
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To paraphrase Luther Ingram (2.00 / 10)
Are you wrong to give your love
To a Motley Moose
And am I wrong trying to hold on
To the best blog still on the loose
If boring you is wrong I don't wanna be right
If boring you is wrong I don't wanna be right

There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!
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:) (2.00 / 10)
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Anyone following the (2.00 / 11)

#LowInformationVoterThoughts hashtag on twitter? There are some good giggles in there.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%...

Shake it like a Polaroid picture.

I'm Chris Blask, know. On DKOS as (2.00 / 15)
"Chris Blask" though some places I go stealth as "chrisblask".

I live in East TN, vote with both hands but usually the left, got involved with Obama in 2007. After the primaries and MyDD () I agreed with others that it would be nice to be able to hold an actual conversation, there was some unlikely fornication, and we birthed a moose.

I've lived in every geopolitical slice of America, crazyleft as well as redneck Canada, can extol the virtues or harangue the faults of all of them.

Pure partisanship gives me hives, crowds of hypnotically nodding heads scare the crap out of me. I'm fairly certain I cannot definitively forecast the future and oh feel arguably safe if decisions are based more on information and discussion than belief.

And, given that I am traveling southbound throu West Virginia and typing on an iPhone - which I deeply hate doing - it's pretty clear I talk too much  

"Conway, whom experience had taught that rudeness was by no means a guarantee of good faith, was even less inclined to regard a well-turned phrase as a proof of insincerity."  James Hilton, Lost Horizon

Dude (2.00 / 12)
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Now I am sitting at home, (2.00 / 9)
in my half-finished office, and can report that I wrote that piece of crap comment (god I hate small touch screen keyboards) while me son was driving.

I fierced you while I was driving, but I have it on good authority that fiercing while driving is encouraged.

"Conway, whom experience had taught that rudeness was by no means a guarantee of good faith, was even less inclined to regard a well-turned phrase as a proof of insincerity."  James Hilton, Lost Horizon

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Sometimes I am known to wave pompoms for the (2.00 / 13)
big D Democratic party. I did so quite strenuously in the last election cycle to promote voter enthusiasm ... a key component for GOTV. I am proud of the party's history of social justice and caring about people and feel that one effects change by having a seat at the table rather than throwing rocks from the ground below. My favorite analogy about how changing people is the story of the north wind and the sun. Because I am also pretty sappy. ;)

That said, I don't wear blinders and I disagree with President Obama on a few issues; one of those issues is one that no one in the world cares about.

I like a lively conversation and look forward to reading your posts whether you are "Chris Blask" or the more anonymous "chrisblask".

Words have meaning. Our words will reflect what is in our souls.

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My roots are firmly in the left. (2.00 / 8)
Vietnam-era kid, missed the draft but watched neighborhood kids in Colorado leave and come back. Very liberal parents, high school in Ontario, artsy sentimentalist intellectual sop (I cry at commercials about research).

That is partly why I resist it so much: don't believe your own wishful thinking. Anytime you believe "all we need to do is...!", you probably need to do a lot more than that.

"All we need to do is tell the world there are starving people. /geldof" That helps, but there is so much more to it. Save the whales? Save the forests? Takes more than rubber boats and Earth First! Often, achieving goals requires the complete opposite of your first idea.

I don't know many bad people, so that is almost never the problem. There are usually complex reasons that things aren't the way we want them to be, and once we get over the initial letdown after our first failure to fix them we get into the less-thrilling/more-productive approaches. Along the way we might even find that we agree adamantly with "those people", maybe even share the same goal but are trying different approaches.

It is a good thing that there are always folks taking enthusiastic positions. Even that some will never admit defeat until the last possible point is beaten into the earth. But we rarely have a shortage in that area, and at least as rarely have too many people bringing sides together.

Glad you put some roots down here, JanF. :~)

"Conway, whom experience had taught that rudeness was by no means a guarantee of good faith, was even less inclined to regard a well-turned phrase as a proof of insincerity."  James Hilton, Lost Horizon

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It's almost 5 PM EST, (2.00 / 12)
and I am just now checking in.  Status:  meh.  Still not feeling too swift.  I'm sick and tired of being, well, sick and tired.  Hence, meh.  Enjoying the pony party in the snow above.  ;->


"Fighting Fascism is Always Cool." -- Amsterdam Weekly, vol. 3, no. 18
(-8.50, -7.23)  
It's the best kind of pony party (2.00 / 11)
You get to enjoy the fun and don't have to clean up the poop afterwards.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.
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MOOOOSE! (2.00 / 13)
I'm Adept2u all over the internet and twitter, and that was me on DK anyhow how nice it is too see more people in the herd here.  It's interesting I was kind of thinking of doing a little more blogging in the new year now that I don't feel the pressure to get another vote, (gonna be one of the first) anyhow welcome to the Moose ya'll she's one of my favorite places on the web.

"I honor the place in you where Spirit lives
I honor the place in you which is
of Love, of Truth, of Light, of Peace,
when you are in that place in you,
and I am in that place in me,
then we are One."  Namaste Friends!
Hey there adept2u, long time no see! (2.00 / 9)

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Hi there! (2.00 / 8)
Welcome to the Moose nice to see you again too.

"I honor the place in you where Spirit lives
I honor the place in you which is
of Love, of Truth, of Light, of Peace,
when you are in that place in you,
and I am in that place in me,
then we are One."  Namaste Friends!
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I'm enjoying reading the "how President Obama won" articles.... (2.00 / 9)
He ran a very smart campaign, but it makes me nervous to think of the same techniques being used in the wrong hands.

(Reuters) - As political experts assess Republican Mitt Romney's failed U.S. presidential bid, an analysis of how his campaign and President Barack Obama's winning team used cable TV to target ads at specific groups of voters may offer some valuable tips for the future.

http://www.reuters.com/article...

Love is the lasting legacy of our lives

hello PP (2.00 / 8)
:)
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Hi raina..... (2.00 / 8)
I'm still finding my way around.....nice to see your name on the screen!

Love is the lasting legacy of our lives
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The republicans can't replicate that though... (2.00 / 9)
much too racist/sexist/bigoted to know how to win hearts and minds in the demographic groups growing in numbers
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Not to take any credit away from Plouffe, Axelrod, Messina and Byrd (2.00 / 9)
but I can't help but snicker at the GOPers who sneered at the "community organizer."  The same one who smoked their asses twice in a row.

(As a slight aside, read that it was having lived in MA while Romney was governor that gave Jeremy Byrd the extra incentive to get POTUS re-elected.  To say Byrd wasn't a Romney supporter is putting it mildly.)

"When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in teh stupid and waving a gun" ~ Esteev on Wonkette

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The tools don't make the craftsman. (2.00 / 7)
The GOP has to run out its head of steam and regroup before the tools themselves will do them much good. Liberals by definition tend towards the creative (see: blogosphere) so that edge is likely to stay around regardless.

The GOP as a party certainly gathers up and plays off many of the intolerant inclinations, but saying the same about republicans as a whole is a slipperier slope. There are both much more stark and subtle reasons people choose to vote on one side or another, and neither party has historically clean hands when it comes to playing off nefarious inclinations to win elections.

As the GOP starves for oxygen in the White, Male, (right kind of) Christian atmosphere it will branch into other environs. The basic memes of self-reliance the GOP circles around have legs, the Dems will need to have better arguments when the GOP starts to find other means than divisiveness. "We suck less" works when the other side are idiots, but oppositions have a tendency to learn from failures like the GOP is experiencing right now.

Glad to have you here, LB!

"Conway, whom experience had taught that rudeness was by no means a guarantee of good faith, was even less inclined to regard a well-turned phrase as a proof of insincerity."  James Hilton, Lost Horizon

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I joined here during the purge, but kind of forgot to visit for a while. (2.00 / 10)
BJM reminded me that this is a safe and friendly place, so I'm back!
Welcome back! (2.00 / 7)
Did you get your key to the executive washroom yet?

No?

[runs off to hide all the keys lying around]

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done subjunctively.

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Hopefully someone slips me a copy ;) (2.00 / 3)

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