Gunshots in Suburban Utah

by: BlueInUtah

Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 17:39:09 PM EST



Via Chicago's diary Gunshots in Chicago made me think about the shots I heard last night.  Then I thought about my reaction.  And I'm a bit horrified at myself.
BlueInUtah :: Gunshots in Suburban Utah
I live in a very respectable neighborhood--just as my disapproving neighbors, who give me and my Hubby dirty looks--but it is Utah, and we do like our guns.

Last night I heard several bangs, thought "wrong time of year to be setting off fireworks--wait, no.   That's gunfire."  Steady, about a second between them, deliberate.  Maybe some late night target practice in a nearby field.  In the dark.  I don't know.  It sounded like a full clip, I honestly lost count.

No one called the cops--or at least no cops showed up.  It honestly didn't occur to me to call them, because it's not the first time I'd heard shots and I really do expect it was just someone being moderately responsible--given it was too damned close to houses and the shooter couldn't possibly be absolutely sure what was downrange.  

Now that I think about it, my blase reaction is bizarre.  I actually sat there, considered how far away the shots sounded, how calm and measured they sounded, briefly thought a worried thought about the construction of my walls, then let it go.

Even the rabid gun-rightists of Utah should be dismayed at someone firing off a clip near a neighborhood of houses.  Maybe it was someone doing something horrible inside one of those houses.  Apparently not, even Utah is not so callous as to ignore carnage in "respectable" neighborhoods.

We're right at the city limits here, the fields and farms start only a few blocks away.  Shooting outside the city limits is not frowned on.  The majority of gun owners around here are responsible people, and being Mormon, are less likely that most to be randomly firing off bullets in drunken glee.

But I think next time I'm going to call the non-emergency number to report this, just to prick some awareness with the police.  It's got to start somewhere.

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Tips for hearing gunshots and calling the police. (2.00 / 9)
I have lived rurally, and heard target practice a lot. The hunter shooting at a deer coming straight at our house (which he couldn't see from his position) had me on the ground.

But the one that got me was in Reno ca 2002, when I heard clear domestic trouble down the row of apts I was in.  It sounded nasty and went on for awhile.

I called the police and stated I didn't want the people to know who turned them in. Not sure they did that.

Anyways, the next day somehow we found out it was the wife beating up the husband, breaking furniture and stuff. He was a bedraggled looking person.

I have had the honor of living with two shelties: Boots, kind of a mutt - one tipped ear, dark bronze fur with black tips and four uneven stocking feet. She was bullet proof and could run forever. What a pal. The second was a purebred with an apparent good set of lines, but he was narcoleptic (fear, surprise got him every time), subject to skin trouble, more of the classic blond Collie look. We akc registered him as MacIntosh by Gosh, but called him Mac or Mac-a-doodle. No one would go near our truck/boat combo when he was in it, boy did he show teeth. But otherwise sweet as pie.

Love those kinda woozles.

Thank you.


heh. (2.00 / 7)
my brother in law shoots at deer from his back porch in TN.  They have five acres or so.  A neighbor who disapproved got an air horn and blew it every time a deer poked out of the woods.

If he's in East TN tell him I like venison. (2.00 / 5)
If he is on Douglas Lake tell me where he lives so I can erect a bullet-barrier... ;~)

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

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closer to Nashville. (2.00 / 5)
and he's been known to put a few on the ground.

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A friend of mine is trying to collate all the child gun deaths... (2.00 / 9)
...in 2012 apart from Newtown. There are thousands, but no collation of statistics. I note Slate is also trying to compile a database, but thanks to NRA lobbying, the actual casualties through gun related homicide, suicide and accident are not centrally gathered, and can only be collated from news reports.

Staggering. Absolutely staggering.

Any other vector of harm that caused 30k deaths a year would be studied vigorously, be subject to epidemiology, harm reduction and class action law suits.

Since 1970, more than 1.4 millions have died in gun related deaths, MORE THAN WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, THE KOREAN WAR, AND THE TWO IRAQ WARS COMBINED.

Sorry about the caps bit. But sometimes some things have to be shouted

/end of rant

The p***artist formerly known as 'Brit'


Hey Blue U! (2.00 / 6)
Long time no see, hope you are all good in your mountain paradise!

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

Huh, didn't think anyone would remember me (2.00 / 6)
it being so long since I was here and not being prolific then.

But things go well enough.  I hope all is well with you.


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We shared a Lindonian experience, (0.00 / 0)
how could I ever forget? Very few people would be able to visualize my old stomping ground.

Thanks to Google Maps you can see where I inflicted myself on the planet from space in a number of geographies. In Lindon I cleaned up a field on my neighbor's property and built perhaps the world's greatest RC truck track.

It is unused now and overgrown, but you can still see the 156' near-vertical wall (green, upper left) that wrapped two corners. Four feet all around and eight in the lower corner (we modified rigs until they flew off the top of that, too ;~). You can see the 50s carny trailer parked there as well, with two windows in the left front. Its dolly wheels were sunk into the dirt, I jacked it level, popped in the windows and a sheet of lexan facing the track in the curving left-front corner (you can just see that, looks dark), setup tables inside with computers and put a camera on the roof.

Ah, the epic race days and bonfire nights with dutch oven yummies!

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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hi blue in utah! (2.00 / 3)
i'm in slc limits!  

hope all is well - we have a meet-up jan 19th at oasis cafe, 4pm.  


i visit provo (2.00 / 1)
once in a while - my sewing machine goes to Dave's Bernina for checkups.  

are you relatively alone, politically?  


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Pretty much so (1.00 / 2)
There was actually an office of the Democratic party on one of the main streets in what passes for downtown.  A lot of people paused and stared at it, baffled, like Martians had appeared.

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during 2008 (2.00 / 1)
the byu young dems outnumbered & outperformed the u of u young dems, iirc.  

i know there are more dems in utah county, i wish you-all could find each other.  

did you see Mia Love's freaky faux paux at the guv's inauguration?  


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No, I didn't (2.00 / 2)
What did she do?

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from Rolly's column (2.00 / 1)
Musical chairs ยป Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love lost her bid for Congress in November, but that didn't stop an overzealous volunteer at Gov. Gary Herbert's inauguration Monday from elevating her ahead of congressional delegation members who actually did get elected.

Love, who arrived at the Capitol after the 10:30 a.m. seating deadline, was reassigned a chair on the front row, next to the former governors and first ladies, and, as luck would have it, right next to former first lady Norma Matheson, mother of Rep. Jim Matheson who defeated Love in a bitterly fought race.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/p...

you're solidly in UT-03, right? i'm in the combover for UT-02. ::rolls eyes::  


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Yeah (1.00 / 2)
we have Chaffetz.  Joy.

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Bill McGee (of Ed Show fame ;~) is in Alpine, (0.00 / 0)
and very aware of the Utah Valley liberal contingent. I would be happy to connect you. Drop me a line if you want, chris@icscybersecurity.org.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."

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