Souls and Bellies: Why I am a Progressive

by: plf515

Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 06:28:07 AM EST



Yesterday, Cassandra asked about the source of the quote in my sig line. I had already written an article on Yahoo Voices, but I retained rights to republish, so here it is:

Rabbi Israel Salanter once said:

"Most people worry about their own bellies and other peoples' souls, when we all ought to worry about our own souls and other peoples' bellies"

To me, this is the essence of progressivism: Your soul is not my business but your belly may be.

Part One: Bellies

But why must the government do this? Why not rely on individual charity?

When most people lived in small towns or villages, everyone knew their neighbors. People knew who was hungry and who was not. Even so, charity often failed. Sometimes, as in times of famine, no one in the local community had enough to share and everyone starved. Other times the hungry person was a member of some group that was stigmatized. In different places, different groups were stigmatized, but there were usually some groups that were.

Today, with more and more people living in huge cities, many people do not know their neighbors. If someone is hungry, we may not know; and if someone is begging, we do not know if that begging is legitimate. There certainly are organized charities that attempt to ameliorate some of this problem, but they have too few resources and are not always able to reach everyone. There is a food pantry near where I live in New York City, and I donate to them. But they can't reach all the hungry people; and they can't provide other necessities of life such as shelter or clothing, and they aren't open every day.

The only organization large enough to organize efforts to feed and shelter the poor is the government. Therefore, I support government efforts to do so, and I am willing to pay taxes to enable the government to do so. I go further: Not only do I think no one should be hungry or homeless, I think people should have the opportunity to be educated, and so I support public education and am willing to pay taxes to do that.

And further, I am concerned about pollution because I take a broad view of "belly". I think it includes lungs. Air pollution harms people's lungs, so it is a legitimate concern of mine and of my government's.

Part Two: Souls

On the other hand, I do not think your soul is my business, much less the government's business. If what you are doing does me no harm, nor harms others, then it is not and should not be the government's business. As Thomas Jefferson said
It does me no harm for my neighbor to believe in many gods or no god. It neither robs my pocket nor breaks my leg

This applies equally well, I think, to such issues as gay marriage. It does me no harm. Some people will claim that it is morally wrong; that it is forbidden by the Bible or the Koran. That may be. I will not argue that point (although certainly some Jews, Christians and Muslims will argue about that). But it does me no harm. It neither robs my pocket nor breaks my leg. It may (or may not) be about your soul, but it is not about my soul; thus, it is not my concern or that of my government's. (Beyond cases where I know the people involved, in which case I wish them happiness).

This quote from Salanter does not cover the whole of the progressive-conservative split. But it does a remarkably good job of covering it.

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Nicely said. (2.00 / 12)
The primary reason I am not a conservative is the self-contradiction of social conservatism /soul. The term should self annihilate out of sheer irony.

"JUMBO! shrimp"

"The government should stay our of your personal business, unless we are talking about your personal business."

It isn't even a matter of conservatism being wrong, it is a matter of conservatism not being conservatism.

The primary reason I support liberalism (still not a fan of the term "progressive", but I know what folks mean) is because of its lack of contradiction on social issues /bellies.

Three years ago I had a nice conversation with Bill Redpath, former Chair of the American Libertarian Party about just this. In that conversation we actually found we agreed - in principle - on most things, and if that party/ideology was not in effect barking mad - really just a cover for bunker dwellers under a rational philosophy - I might primarily identify with it. Mr. Redpath agreed with the need for social services ("I just don't like freeloaders" - well, neither does anyone), agreed with social enforcement in trade, and agreed with social enforcement of environmental issues - just as much more of a last resort.

I'm pretty much with that. It's just a matter of degree.

The Democrats have my support for now - and from the look of it for a long time - because they are the party that is finding a line between ideals and application. We all want to keep the environment clean and safe, but the Right (or Bottom, for the Libertarian Party, by Political Compass measurement) can't find a balance to save their lives.

Obama being called "the most liberal President, evah" just strikes me as mad. Sure, he firmly believes in the foundations of liberalism, but the vast majority of his statements and policies reflect a belief in the need to maintain maximum individual freedoms. I just don't see anything like that sort of honest balance on the Right these days.

But I'm watching for it, and when some GOP politician in my voting sphere finds their ass with both hands I am going to vote to encourage them.

John Askren - "Never get into a pissing match with a skunk."


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