A View From the Swamp - Oil Is Forever

by: Mortifyd

Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 01:47:15 AM EST

There are things that we all avoid.  Things we just can't stand to be around. Things that just irritate us beyond our ability to play nice.

FOX stupidity is one of mine.

I live with my parents for various reasons right now. FOX is on the big TV in the living room all the time. It sucks.

But more than that, it gives my parents a completely fucked up view of the world.  Not a little fucked up - completely fucked up.

The latest point of stupid that Mum has been throwing around is that there is oil forever. Generations worth - all discovered recently here in America and we just don't have to worry about it. Ever.

Mortifyd :: A View From the Swamp - Oil Is Forever
Now I might not be an expert on fossil fuels - but I seem to recall something about them running out eventually.  And that our constant use of them has something to do with that eventual running out.

I don't even know how to deal with this level of stupid, much less from my parents. I don't want to be guilty of "mansplaining" - but there has to be some way to combat this ignorant position.

But damned if I can figure it out.  Where did all this "new oil" magically come from? How is it that in a nation where 50% of the population thinks Jesus rode a dinosaur some future generation will magically sort out another energy source IF oil does run out? (Mum's answer when pushed - they just will because they have plenty of time to figure it out because - magical oil.)

I get the whole not wanting to deal with the problems - I do.  But we have to deal with them - we can't just pass the buck onto other people and hope.  Except we do all the time.

My parents regularly mock me for my concern over recycling, the rights of the poor (in their universe poor = brown, nevermind they both grew up pretty poor) the rights of women to control their own bodies, concern for other people in other nations.  This is just standard for them and I can ignore a lot of it by remembering I can go back to my kosher, Oregonian, recycling, small space home in a couple months after I get my head back together.  But this oil forever shit just makes me insane.

I don't even know where it came from.  I've heard of no new discoveries of oil reserves. Just sort of out of the blue my Mum was all -

Oil will last forever so we don't have to cut back or give a shit - we just need to stop buying it from those EVOL Islamics - we have plenty.


Oh yeah, the oil crisis is a total liberal lie. There's so much in the US alone that 6 generations can use it and still have plenty left. You'd know that if you watched FOX.

BWAH? The "easy to get" to oil we have is reserved for military use.

Oh, no.  We won't ever run out. And we can just carpetbomb those dirtbags into submission and take theirs anyway.

BWAH??? Who the hell are you and how did I end up your child again? What happens when even we run out?

Oh, we won't. And they can just figure something out in the future when it might be a problem. Which it won't be.  Because we have enough for us forever.

I don't think I'm the crazy one anymore. In fact, if this is typical of the region - I'm pretty sure I'm not going to actually get ANY help at all that I need.

So if you know about this sudden discovery of magic Jesus oil that will continually refill because - MURICA - please use the comments to explain it to me. Because I'm lost - and far from home.

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i wonder if all this crazy (1.88 / 8)
is from fox, or if your parents may listen to some talk radio too.  

they don't at home (2.00 / 6)
and when I'm in the car with them it's radio on the 60-80s channels.  Honest.

I do know my Mum used to be a fan of the Limbutt and Beckkerhead, but even she has limits and stopped talking about them years ago.  And they pretty much never miss a chance to irritate me with some right wing bullshit.

And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...  

[ Parent ]
Here's an alternate perspective, mortifyd (2.00 / 8)
The United Arab Emirates - a place most Fox viewers couldn't find on a map - enjoyed a booming economy due to their fortuitous geology and petroleum reserves. Their visionary leaders, however, knew that these reserves were finite, and that other revenues sources would be needed to maintain the country's standard of living.

As a result, they launched a massive building boom aimed at turning the Emirates into a tourist destination with high-end resorts, cultural centers, luxury shopping, and attracted corporations to build their corporate headquarters in Dubai.

In Abu Dhabi, they have been building a new downtown area that's modeled on Chicago, complete with construction of a river and waterfront. I was fortunate to visit there in 2008 and see some of it first-hand.

Abu Dhabi Construction

Their plan ensures that the UAE Economy will be sustainable for any years to come as they wean themselves off petroleum wealth.

As a geologist, I can assure you that America's petroleum wealth is finite, and that the degree of difficulty, environmental damage, and expense is increasing for the remaining reserves. The only way in which continued reliance on these US reserves is viable is if we somehow cannot purchase foreign oil at affordable prices, which suggests a level of global turmoil that will crush all of us, Fox viewers included.

Oh, and by the way... those irritating ads with that blonde lady telling people that there are plenty of "North American" natural gas reserves? There's a reason they don't say "United States". They're counting Canada's vast reserves in that bloated figure.

Surely Fox viewers wouldn't want us relying upon a country that provides health care for their people through a vile Socialist single payer system.  

I never travel without my diary. One should always have something sensational to read in the train.

-- Oscar Wilde

well, we all know that Bobby Jindal (2.00 / 5)
isn't going to do anything based on anything done in the UAE - hell no they can't find that on a map - or the socialist Canadians.  

My parents were slightly more educated than your average FOX viewer - until they became FOX viewers.  I am glad to know I was in the ballpark that what we have is progressively harder and nastier to get to - while they don't believe me, there is some solace in being right I suppose.

But then my parents think Gulf seafood is perfectly safe.

And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...  

[ Parent ]
Please don't write off all Gulf seafood (1.80 / 5)
Much of the Gulf was unaffected, but the livelihoods of many hardworking people have been devastate by the perception that any seafood - fin or shell - is toxic. That's simply not the case, and there's extensive testing going on between ocean, wholesaler, retailer, restaurant, and consumer.

As someone who's spent their entire career in the environmental industry, yes, I am appalled not only at the BP spill and the willful negligence and incompetence involved, but also in the response action and the use of chemical dispersants. Still, it's a complex situation that warrants an array of responses, including compensation for those whose entire way of life has been destroyed.  

I never travel without my diary. One should always have something sensational to read in the train.

-- Oscar Wilde

[ Parent ]
I only eat fish, I'm still at least kosher style (2.00 / 4)
and she buys frozen farmed tillapia that is not from around here.  The mudbug season is in full swing and they are eating it up - but that's just not FOOD in my universe and never will be.

And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...  

[ Parent ]
I feel your pain. My parents are (2.00 / 3)
FOXbots too. Gives them a completely distorted view of the world.

I don't fight it as hard as I used to. Doesn't seem to do much good.

Come to me in my dreams, and then
By day I shall be well again!
For so the night will more than pay
The hopeless longing of the day.

We will always have oil (2.00 / 1)
the same way that we will always have beluga caviar and bluefin tuna.

There may not be a lot of them and it will be expensive but you can get it.


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